finally one quick question about karl rove. he is also on the side of saying we got to do something about these tea party whackos who get these guys elected and then they can't win in november. >> yeah, it was amazing how many shots got taken at karl rove at cpac. sarah palin, and [ inaudible ] from the conservative media watchdog group -- i'm blanking on the name, i'm sorry -- >> bill: the media research -- >> media research center. thank you. it's pretty amazing how quickly he was able to isle leen at it a lot of those tea party folks. a lot of them probably didn't like him in the first place, but it's amazing -- and he did sort of back down from some of his stuff originally where he was -- that conservative victory project that founded -- after that first round of comments he was helping and hawing on how much they would be getting involved in these primaries and whether or not they would be going after people like steve keg who looks like he is going to win any primary in iowa. >> bill: all right. kevin robolard is a report